
What green topics does the average public need to know more about?
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By: My Green Cleaner :: 3 years ago
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"I very strongly believe that general public is not as well informed about little things they can do which can not only help in having a positive impact on environment, but can also save them money. Some of the topics they can be educated are as given below:-
Saving on Gasoline
? Use a Shared Car Service
? Drive a Small Car
? Ride the Train
? Switch to Solar Water Heating
Saving on Electricity
? Switch Off Something (SOS)
? Switch to energy-saving CFL lightbulbs
? Install Efficient Windows
? Use Dimmable Lights
? Use Energy Star Model Appliances
? Insulate Your Water Pipes
? Line Dry Your Clothes
Saving Paper
? Buy products with less packaging
? BYOB: Bring your own shopping bag
? Try Alternatives to Disposable Diapers
Saving of water
? Use your own water bottle
? Make your toilet more efficient Use a Low-flow Shower head
? Switch to Drip Irrigation
Saving on Food Stuff
? Reduce Food Waste
? Eat Less Meat
? Grow Vegetables in Your Garden
Miscellaneous Points
? Plant Trees
? Keep your Kids Involved in all such tasks
? Stay Informed: Knowledge is Power"
By: dpuckjoe :: 3 years ago
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"1. Overpopulation. Nobody is talking about it and I'd rather people choose what to do about it before nature chooses for us. If you can adopt instead of having your own, do it. If you think developing countries shouldn't be using condoms, think again. Suggestions on this one get ugly and go downhill in a hurry.
2. Restructure your transportation needs. Find a way to live close to work or close to public transportation that can get you to work.
3. Demand smarter water use. There's no reason toilet water cannot be water that has already been used in the shower. The system just needs to be used everywhere. Our toilet water is cleaner than the water millions of people drink - a fact that should be changed from both ends.
4. Recycling. Considering awareness of this, the numbers are downright embarrassing.
5. Being wasteful has an environmental cost so it should also have a monetary cost felt by anyone choosing to be wasteful. Plastic bags should cost money. It should not be cheap and convenient to destroy natural resources.
6. The production of Styrofoam should stop. Until scientists can determine how many years it takes to break down, it doesn't make much sense to create the stuff considering it is not being reused and it will never go away.
7. Solar energy. If there's not enough sunlight to keep plants alive we will die. So as long as it will matter we will have sunlight. If we invest in solar energy now, we have a future.
8. Localize your needs. Food and daily needs that can be met locally cuts out the wasteful transportation stage. It also creates a foundation for what will be our future as cheap oil runs out. If we buy local then food costs will no longer be dependent on the price of oil. Local businesses lack the advertising power of large corporations and require the patronage of those who care."
By: PDX_lead_the_charge :: 3 years ago
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"9. Reconsider the American Dream at home and abroad. Is living in a large house really worth it when heading all those extra rooms and driving all those extra miles means your children won't be able to provide a happy life for their children? Doing what's for your children has new meaning and it needs to be taken into account. The generation that will be affected by our greed doesn't get to vote and its up to us to make the right choice.
10. Fight apathy. If we can land on the moon we can solve any crisis here on earth. Apathy is the product of a spoiled existence. We know better and we can do better and we need to start proving it."
By: PDX_lead_the_charge :: 3 years ago
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"The biggest thing that I think the average public needs to be aware of is green washing. Just because a product says it's environmentally safe or green doesn't mean it is. A lot of people think they're helping the environment because of signs on products that say "better for the environment" or "now environmentally safe!", etc, when they actually aren't. So the public needs to be aware of these issues, and how important it is to actually research a product before buying it. Read the ingredients of so-called "greener" products - research them until you find something that really is safe, both for the environment and for you."
By: Rick Walker LEED AP :: 3 years ago
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"Rick, while I think you're absolutely right, that a lot of products are using the "green" seal to generate more business without actually being more green, I don't think it's a really big problem. There's a certain amount of profiteering and straight up fraud that's to be expected. In time there will be some official certification system for daily products that means it meets a certain "green standard" or whatever, just as they have for buildings. In some ways it's good because it's more environmentally friendly, but it also lets people off the hook in a behavioral sense. It's like if you buy organic but it's shipped from far away then the petrolium that wasn't used to grow the food was used to transport it and you're just paying more money but really saving nothing. asking the average consumer to verify the validity of a green claim made by a product is not realistic. People will always have better things to do with their time. The primary factor that determines customers choosing one product over another, after brand loyalty is price. If governments subsidized certifiable environmental products to keep their prices competitive, consumers would have 2 good reasons to choose a product. Especially with times as tough as they are. I think the system of subsidies right now is screwing this up really bad. Basically subsidies are making it cheaper for products to be transported across the globe and back and still cost less then something local. it's wasteful and unsustainable. I try and buy green but to be honest when my wife is shopping it's more about coralling the kids then reading the labels or doing research."
By: PDX_lead_the_charge :: 3 years ago
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"You do bring up a huge issue which is information. There's a lot of it out there but a lot of it is conflicting, passed down (by people like me who mean well but are still human) and hard to find. I watch a ton of documentaries but other than the occasional facebook user, I can't find anyone else who watches these. There's a section in the paper once a week (The Oregonian in my case) that has some great sustainable idea listed (like taking tupperware to the restaurant for leftovers or forcing companies to take back their packing materials to use them again) which may or may not hit the right people at the right time.
For the people who already care, yes verifying a green stamp is very important. But even for people who care it's a lot of work. Even with all the earth loving I squeeze in between working full time and being a family man with 2 kids under the age of 5, I don't think I can fit that one in. In Oregon, however, there is a thing called GreenDirect which is like the Yellow pages for green businesses. And I met a representative from the Green Direct who says they verify that the companies listed actually do green practices and aren't just trying to profit from the whole desire to go green thing.
But for my money, at the end of the day, the first step to having everyone go green is at least lying about it first. It's kind of like the Declaration of Independence with the all men are created equal thing. They didn't mean it literally at the time, but as time went on the aspiration to make it true literally led to a country that it's founders were incapable of creating at the time they created it. Point is if everyone is claiming they're green at least it means they want to be percieved that way and it's much easier to force a company that wants to be seen as green to be more green then a company that just doesn't give a crap."
By: PDX_lead_the_charge :: 3 years ago
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"PDX_lead_the_charge _ Friend you have really hit the nail on its head, bang on. I wish we had some thing like Green Direct in India also. Because it is suddenly become fashionable so to say for Companies to claim green practices. Now whether they are really Green or are pseudo green, God alone knows."
By: dpuckjoe :: 3 years ago
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"PDX - I have to admit, you do have a good point about the time it takes to research products. However, many people buy things because of a label with the idea that "if it's on there it must be true". At least if they know there may be an issue, they have the choice to research or not. Although I think green marketing is beneficial on the whole, I also think the "look for the green label" has become a way for not so environmentally friendly companies to snag some of the environmentally concerned market.
I have to disagree on the part about companies lying, however. Merely by the fact that they are lying, rather than trying to be legitimately eco-friendly, proves that they really don't "give a crap" about anything but sales.
You say "it's much easier to force a company that wants to be seen as green to be more green then a company that just doesn't give a crap." My question to you is, how can you force a company to be more green? How would you propose forcing a company to do this? True, places like Dallas, who have set green building laws in motion, are doing some of it, but that's only in operations, not in manufacturing products.
Now, granted, there are other things as important as green washing. Understanding that everything you do really does help or hinder the environmental effort is one of them; knowing that many changes to becoming energy efficient and ecologically friendly don't cost as much or aren't as involved as a lot of people think is another. Your top ten list are excellent examples.
However, I do think it comes down to misinformation, misdirection and outright lies. We're trying to change the way an entire world looks at things. To do that, it takes trust, among other things. How can the general public trust anything about a topic like environmental concerns - especially when the results won't be see for years -, when they know that some people and companies, at least, are lying about it?"
By: Rick Walker LEED AP :: 3 years ago
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"By forcing a company that claims to be green to actually be green I guess I meant that if a corporation in effect sends the message that it's company is green but 20/20 has an interview with some whistleblower pointing out what the coporate practices really are then at least it's a story. Whereas if the company makes no such claim, it's not even news. At some point in time I hope companies will be required to list on the side of their packaging a warning about how the product is hazardous to the environment. Just like cigarettes are required to have a warning that lists health hazards. The idea being that anything that's not healthy for the earth isn't healthy for the people in it. Same idea with government finally admitting CO2 emissions are a health hazard. That means some guy driving 80 miles a day to get to work and back is causing harm to the air my child breaths. Recognizing that opens up all sorts of legal and actionable doors and creates greater awareness for people and the choices they make.
As far as corporations only caring about money, that's all they ever care about. That's why they're evil. Their first duty is to their stockholders they claim and the general public is secondary at best. So for corporations to do things green they either have to be earning a reward or avoiding a punishment of some sort. So yeah, they only care about money, but at least it makes them predictable."
By: PDX_lead_the_charge :: 3 years ago
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"The problem today all over the world is how much Green is Green? There are no single standards or yard sticks which the Governments and Corporates agree to. So what I label as Green Practice may not be Green as per some else's standards. So first thing is that the Governments must have a measurable yard stick which is not lost out in the mumbo jumbo of technicalities. The standards laid down should be clear, clean, measurable and in simple language for lay persons to understand. Then you require an independent ombudsman who categorizes or rates these Corporations as per the Green ratings laid down. But is all this possible, difficult may be, but a determined Government can certainly have it implemented."
By: dpuckjoe :: 3 years ago
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"I definitely see more rigid regulations later, but I'm not sure that's a good thing. It could translate into higher consumer prices, for one. There are standards, however. For instance, for wood flooring to be considered green, it has to meet the standards of the Forest Stewardship Council. For building construction to be considered green, it has to meet the standards of LEED.
It doesn't take a higher level of government, either. Take Dallas - they HAVE set regulations that every new building must meet LEED standards. From recycling programs to building more bike and walking paths (as alternatives to driving), the city is well on it's way to being as green as possible. Portland is another example.
Products, however.... to make sure all products are green, or that the products saying they're environmentally safe really are.... I'm not sure anything can be done about that as of yet. Unless, as pdx suggests if I understand correctly, we sue those companies who falsely advertise such things. But then, that means the cost of things go up because of lawsuits, which, in turn, I believe could be damaging to the environmental movement - give consumers a bad taste."
By: Rick Walker LEED AP :: 3 years ago
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"Wow, Great topic, good thinking My Green Cleaner!
I think (I'm basing this on england) that on the whole people know they should "be green" and on the whole they also know how to "be greener" (than they are) but I think the massive hole in knowledge comes as to why and what the consequences are if they don't make change.
I was a bit naive (possibly still am too) about the big wide green issue, but the more I know about what happens if I don't, the more I feel I MUST MAKE CHANGE."
By: Cooltivator :: 3 years ago
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"You have a great point there, Cooltivator, and one I didn't think of. The one thing that really gets tied in with being environmentally conscious is global warming. Unfortunately, there are so many views about whether it's real or not that we need to focus on other issues: resources dwindling, trash piling up, pollution of the air - real, solid facts of what we've been doing to the planet."
By: Rick Walker LEED AP :: 3 years ago